BOT Final Presale Tracking (June 13). Inside Out 2 Average Thursday comp stands at $11.33M.

[BoxOfficeTheory Presale Tracking](https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/31569-the-box-office-buzz-tracking-and-pre-sale-thread/page/848/#comments)

[**USA Showtimes As of May 31**](https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/31569-the-box-office-buzz-tracking-and-pre-sale-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4683407)

[Presales Data (Google Sheets Link)](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zRjKpNOjPCBIgUULoyXyj5sBGMuU9owswn7bMfz1WSE/edit#gid=0)

[BoxOfficeReport Previews](http://www.boxofficereport.com/previewgrosses.html)

[Quorum Update (June 12)](https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/31569-the-box-office-buzz-tracking-and-pre-sale-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4687320)

– [June 7 Weekly Unaided Awareness](https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/31569-the-box-office-buzz-tracking-and-pre-sale-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4685541)

– [May 31 Weekly Unaided Awareness](https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/31569-the-box-office-buzz-tracking-and-pre-sale-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4683375)

**DOMESTIC PRESALES**

– YM! (Marcus is doing $7 matinees for children and seniors all day every day before 4 PM for the summer **(May 31)**.)

**Inside Out 2 Average Thursday Comp: $11.33M**

– FANDANGO (Fandango Rewards: Disney+ Subscribers can get a $10 Fandango Promo Code for Inside Out 2 Movie Ticket. Offer ends July 21 **(June 12)**. Inside Out 2 has surpassed Inside Out in advance ticket sales on Fandango. The animated sequel is also the highest Pixar ticket pre-seller since Toy Story 4.**(June 10)**.)

– NRG (Now tracking for $85M domestic debut **(May 30)**.)

– abracadabra1998 (Comp: $9.38M THU. I agree with TheFlatLannister’s analysis, the growth rate has been nuts this week. I would even go farther than him and say that there is a good chance this goes over $10 million for previews, and maybe into the 10.5-11 range. But again, this is fully based on the growth rate for my market, and not on anything else **(June 11)**. Like I said, removed the lower family comps that were starting to go a little wild. Just don’t think this will replicate those walk-ups. Still going up against every comp, just really stellar last week pace! **(June 10)**. Really good pace, up against all comps again. Really inclined though to remove IF and Garfield as comps, I agree with M37 in that this will be more adult heavy (and thus more pre-sales heavy) **(June 9)**. Garfield is a bad comp because EA was still syphoning off a bunch of sales at this point, but all other comps also went up significantly. This also has PLFs, as opposed to comps like Trolls or Garfield. Still think KFP4 is the best comp, but some really good signs here! **(June 7)**. Pulled the numbers today, I have to say that this Inside Out 2 update is making me think good things are in store **(June 6)**. Still mostly following along that Kung Fu Panda 4 ($6.32M) number for now **(June 2)**. Keeps chugging along, comps will start converging soon **(May 30)**.)

– AnthonyJPHer (Amazing growth for Thursday, it’s really ramping up now, and if it keeps up this acceleration, I think 100m is very much in the discussion at this point. I can see previews being more than 8m at this point. Strong growth for Friday. Not as good as Thursday’s growth but still good strong growth overall. Friday did sell more tickets though. I’m bullish at this point for this movie, so I think, like I mentioned before, 100m is a huge possibility. If walkups are strong and reviews are solid, things are looking bright for this movie. | Sales have been very consistent. At the very least we can put sub 80m to bed **(June 7)**.)

– cannastop (Funko Fan event is selling like gangbusters though (despite being at maybe only one chain). Prices aren’t that low apparently. Still very limited **(June 5)**.)

– charlie Jatinder (Comp: $15.73M THU at MTC2. WOW. KFP4 increased again. Most of the comps other than the last 2 will end up with $15M+ ish tomorrow **(June 13)**. If rest of country did similar to MiniTC2, IO2 be looking at $15M+ previews, $45M+ FRI and $155M+ weekend. It’s mini Mexico in US. | HUGE jump for FRI in MiniTC2 **(June 12)**. CANMTC2: No comps. From experience, I guess it should reach 11-12K final for previews. So not as bad as Lightyear result in CAN probably **(June 11)**. Nearly every comp except Minions 2 increased. Tomorrow should be a big jump as well. MiniTC2 over-index will be massive as it will likely end selling around Guardians of Galaxy Vol 3 and Quantumania range **(June 10)**. Lower Canada gross due to schools being in session is a difference of expecting $11.5M from American data and it coming to $11M. For context, Lightyear Canada $155K previews aka 2.9% of DOM. In comparison, Minions 2 did 7.4%. | Pixar films aren’t doing well in Canada on Thursday previews. Donno why. Lightyear and Elemental, both did eh in Canada on previews **(June 10)**. KFP4 dropped as expected and it will continue to do so **(June 9)**. Amazing how KFP4 comp is still $21M+. Ofc it will start dropping and a big drop on the final day to come in the low teens. MiniTC2 will over-index for Pixar due to the big Hispanic audience here **(June 9)**. How about more than $100M OW **(June 8)**.)

– crazymoviekid ($7.98M THU and $46.48M FRI Comp. Comps dropped just a bit for THU, Gentleminions is hitting that comp, still feeling $8M-$9M. FRI Comps still very wide, let’s limit down to $25M-$35M for now **(June 12)**. Still feeling strong in $8M-$9M+ THU. Truly wide FRI comps, strong comps anywhere between $20M-$40M right now **(June 11)**. Feeling strong in $8M-$9M+ **(June 10)**.)

– dallas ($16.6M THU comp. Insane growth in these past two days. I know this is overindexing here, but wow. I’m thinking this could open to 120M or higher **(June 12)**. Wow. Grew nearly 50% in just the last day. I 100% think this opens above 100M at this point. The question now is, how much higher can it go? **(June 10)**. Still chugging alone well. I really don’t see the data to support anything below a $100M opening right now **(June 9)**. Still selling very well. I’d wager this opens over $100M at this point **(June 8)**. This one’s doing great in my area. If all goes well, this should pass 90M OW and possible even 100M if the pace accelerates **(June 6)**.)

– Flip (THU: 1.33x Bad Boys 4 T-1 [7.43m] (maybe Bad Boys just had exceptional growth). 6.57x Watchers T-1 [6.56m] (maybe Watchers over indexed?). FRI: 1.84x Thursday. 3.72x Bad Boys Thursday T-2 [20.76m]. | Not much growth left for the Sunday fan event since all the showings are at least 65% sold **(June 12)**. A lot of new THU showtimes were added, but not a lot of sales came to fruition. I expect tomorrow to be a much bigger day of growth. 24 showtimes added for FRI is insane. A fair amount are empty, but if demand is there they’ll fill up soon. FRI is 1.82x Thursday. THU comps: 1.55x Bad Boys 4 T-2 [8.64m] and 5.043x Garfield T-2 [9.71m] **(June 11)**. 2.046x Bad Boys 4 T-3 [11.41m] **(June 10)**. 1.922x Bad Boys 4 T-4 [10.71m]. hopefully new showtimes will be added because a fair amount of shows are getting close to capacity **(June 9)**. 2.066x Bad Boys 4 T-6 [11.52M*] (only comp) **(June 7)**. 1.893x Bad Boys 4 T-7 **(June 6)**. 1.738x Bad Boys 4 T-8 (only comp) **(June 5)**. Fan event for Inside Out 2 (3D AMC showings at 12:00 PM on Sunday, at the majority of AMC theaters near me) is definitely siphoning off some demand from previews: for three showtimes on Sunday the event has 102 seats sold, which is over half the total of previews so far **(June 5)**.)

– jeffthehat (10.53M THU comp. Really good pace down the home stretch. The average of IF/KFP4 has been holding steady, so wouldn’t shock me if this ends up playing like a normal family movie **(June 12)**. Don’t think any releases this year are good comps for this **(June 10)**.)

– katnisscinnaplex (Comp: $4.43M THU. No great comps for this. The last week and especially final few days will tell everything we need to know **(May 31)**.)

– keysersoze123 (MTC1 Fan Shows: I expect it to be near sellout close to showtime. So around 600K ish. That said for Inside Out Sunday BO it would be just a noise. | MTC1: I flipped the order of runs and so friday is 22ish hours of data while previews is 26hrs of data. Still very impressive growth for T-1 THU and guarantees double digit previews. In fact I expect it to cross 11m in previews. ~125m OW is what I am seeing for now. Let us see how walkups go tomorrow to further hone it. Friday will be a monster day for sure. **(June 12)**. I think IO2 will just stay flat on saturday. Its almost peak summer plus Sunday would be a huge day due to FD. I would not be surprised if all 3 days gross around the same. I am feeling good about mid 30s gross for those days **(June 12)**. MTC1: Solid but not a spectacular increase I would say. Still on course to the numbers I mentioned yesterday **(June 11)**. MTC2: Unlike say Panda 4 or Elemental, Inside Out 2 has all big Imax/PLF. so its ATP is higher than all recent animation movies. Even Minions 2 which had lower ATP overall. But Minions under indexed at MTC1 and we have to see what happens to Inside Out. Friday I ran early yesterday(took until 4PM) and Previews ran from that till late night 🙂. Pace for previews is similar to MTC1 at this point. Its going to finish extremely strong over here **(June 11)**. Since the reactions came out so late, there is no impact to presales so far. Let us see where things are tomorrow and final surge. Pace for previews ahead of Mermaid but real difference should be seen tomorrow. I would be surprised by sub 10m previews. I also strongly feel its true friday will be > 30m. Let us see where things on thursday before I extrapolate. For today I am seeing 110m+ OW **(June 10)**. So final surge begins. Let us see how rest of the week goes **(June 9)**. Flattish for previews. Friday has started to accelerate. I expect final surge to start from tomorrow **(June 8)**. There was some catalyst yesterday as pace today was slightly down. | This is as of yesterday night. +2 days and few hours plus of data. Its definitely starting to amp up now big time just as I expected **(June 7)**. Sunday Fan Shows at MTC1 are really wide and not cheap either **(June 5)**. I expect presales to accelerate even more this week and of course leading up to final week **(June 4)**. I think upcoming week pace is going to tell the tale. Not too happy with late social media reactions/reviews for this movie. That hinders any chance of early boost **(June 2)**. Show counts show Plexes are expecting a big OW. I dont remember when we last had a animation movie start with so many shows. I wont count Mario as that was a fan driven movie (May 15).)

– Porthos ($12.25M THU. Yeah. Fantastic day today, I’d say. A lot of the higher comps will crash tomorrow, but, really, right now it’s just a question of ATP/how many kids tickets get sold. And that’s a question that I really have no clue as to what the answer is gonna be **(June 13)**. For the record, last night it comped at 12.8m, so it actually rose a small amount. Not that I expect that to continue, but a good sign nonetheless. Really, it might be the ATP which turns out to be the true wild card here. Just how many kids tickets will be bought relative to other flicks? No idea. Suppose we’ll find out when the comps come out at the end **(June 11)**. FWIW. I think my data is probably currently looking at something like 9.5m to 9.75m but it could very well still hit 10m+. Just needs explosive growth. Which we really won’t know if it occurs until it actually occurs. The ingredients for explosive growth are here. Won’t know if it actually arrives until the next couple of days. | The IM might be slightly higher due to fan events, but the Sunday event is limited, I believe, to AMC, while the Saturday event is limited to Marcus. Both of the above won’t be nothing (especially if there is Thr/Fri -> Sat/Sun shifting going on). But being limited to a couple of chains (even if one of them is the Big Kahuna) still mitigates things to a large degree **(June 10)**. Will it continue? Guess that’s up to reactions and reviews **(June 10)**. Slight pullback in Sacramento as well, but still a very good day, IMO. Next real tell will be Sunday, as T-4 Saturdays tend to be softer days (for a variety of reasons) **(June 8)**. Pretty much looking for signs like this. See if the momentum continues before we get to the real test next week **(June 7)**. I want to see how it does locally against both Lightyear and Elemental over the next couple of days before really thinking hard about the possibility of $10M. I’ve been soft-penciling in around 8m-10m for a while now. Only in very soft pencil, though. One thing to remember. Perhaps because of GentleMinions, Minions 2 had an appreciably higher ATP than many similar kids films.| Yep. Acceleration underway **(June 6)**. FWIW, no AMCs in my market. | [*in response to cannastop’s comment about Funko*] Just means people with Marcus Theaters in their regions likely need to adjust a bit when projecting outwards. | There is a Funko event that I am reasonably sure is limited to Marcus Theater/Movie Tavern on Saturday. The El Capitan has some sort of event on Friday, but it’s the El Capitan and they often have exclusives. Might be something about a different fan event (listed on Fandango), but it might just be the above as I can’t find anything else about the so-called “INSIDE OUT 2 – OPENING WEEK FAN EVENT (2024)” on Google except for something at ElCap. FWIW, locally I just have bog-standard showings on FSS with no special events anywhere within 30 miles. | Acceleration looks to be starting **(June 5)**. I literally have zero good comps. I generally don’t keep track of sub-5m pure kids animated films until right before release. It is too backloaded (or rather NOT frontloaded) for the AtSVs of the world to make much sense. IO2 had a (too) long (by half) pre-sale window which is wrecking a whole bunch of other slightly more plausible comps. If I had a complete track of KFP4, that’d probably help a great deal. As often the case with films that should be very backloaded, won’t really know how backloaded they are until the week of release. (will note that IO2 does seem to be picking up a hint of steam right now. Which should bode well for its overall ticket total). | Horror is, along side pure kids animation, THE most backloaded genre there is when it comes to pre-sales. ATP for the Nope comp will be wrecked, but the pace should be very instructive. Name recognition for Jordan Peele led to slightly stronger pre-sales for a non-franchise horror installment which should map fairly well with the in-built name recognition of IO2. Is complicated by the fact that Nope had an even longer pre-sale window than IO2, but that might help counterbalance some of the ATP errors. Won’t be a good comp at the end but right now it might be one of the better ones, especially to show the insane growth that should be on the table. I don’t think it’s much of a coincidence that it’s one of the few comps I have right now that is pointing to double digit previews **(May 30)**.)

– Relevation ($11.92M THU Comp. Couldn’t quite top Bob Marley and Dune in my market, but absolutely stellar showing regardless. Easily became the top selling movie of the year at my AMC, but a confluence of Dune having 70mm at my Emagine theater and family movies performing poorly there for some reason kept it just a bit away. Comp average firmly north of $10.5M, how much higher depends on the extent to which you think IF is a worthwhile comp. I lean towards having it in because IO2 is growing explosively well this week and I don’t see why it can’t have kids movie tier walkups like IF. Plus Garfield over-indexed here making IF’s under index a fair counteract. Walkups are a fickle business but I think this is truly in for a massive, massive finish. Setting my prediction at $10.5-11.5M THU and a $115-135M OW **(June 12)**.)

– Rorschach ($12.71M THU comp and $71.02M FRI comp. The only WED-only comp I came across that seemed to remotely mirror IO2’s numbers was, lo and behold, Sonic 2. It’s not a complete one-to-one, given that it had no IMAX showings and the theater didn’t have an XD auditorium until Fall 2022, but going off numbers alone, the two line up pretty closely. The Friday-to-Thursday ticket sale ratios are not too far off from each other (2.67 for IO2 vs. Sonic 2’s 2.46), though obviously, IO2’s higher previews will balance out with a lower True Friday bump-up. The Thursday + Friday comp makes me feel pretty confident about a mid-40s OD **(June 12)**. This was a very great day of sales. At this point, Friday is gonna be massive if it keeps up these already extremely high bumps. $10M previews should be a lock. Guessing somewhere in the high 30s for the combined days, but that estimate should easily keep going up **(June 11)**. These are not good comps at all. Gonna ignore the Friday/combined day comps for now, but the Thursday comps seem more in line with what everyone else is reporting (if I had to guess, $10M is a very likely outcome). And the fact that Friday already has that big of a jump is a very encouraging sign. **(June 10)**.)

– Skim Beeble (I don’t know if it’s just me, but starting June 20th PLF showings for Inside Out 2 are stopping after around 4 PM. Is there possibly a surprise release coming or is it just a scheduling showtime thing from the chains. (This is AMC) **(May 29)**.)

– TalismanRing ($15.17M THU comp. Elementals ($11.57M) (Disney+ Summer) is most likely the best comp **(June 12)**. Best Monday pre-sales at my NYC local since Oppenheimer and it bettered that by 4 seats **(June 10)**.)

– TheFlatLannister (Comp: $11.78M THU Florida and $9.00M Orlando Comp. Florida: Amazing pace. Early projection would be $10M+. | Orlando: Yep over $9M now. Should be $9.5Mish by tomorrow **(June 12)**. Florida: Well, that went 0 to 100 real quick. Phenomenal pace and this is heading to a BIG final day. | Orlando comps starting to converge around $9ish. Probably over $10m by T-0 because pace is excellent **(June 11)**. Ok, now I’m not so sure… Probably gets close to $10M? **(June 10)**. Still growing at a fast rate. Definitely over indexing **(June 9)**. This is heading over $10M previews if I had to guess **(June 8)**. Even though this will overindex in Florida, this is still accelerating at an excellent pace. Super strong final week is incoming **(June 7)**. It’s doing phenomenal in Florida at least. Excellent pace these past couple of days. With a strong final push, I don’t think a $100M OW is too crazy to ask for **(June 6)**. Thinking $85M OW is about right. Don’t see much data as of right now to suggest a number much lower or higher than that **(May 31)**.)

– Tinalera (Montreal (just montreal) has 1 theatre doing presales for Inside Out 2…Im used to seeing 2-3 (my usual amount if 4) but 1? For both days, that’s even odder **(June 8)**.)

– todos (AMC is adding second fan event shows next Sunday @12pm and first shows in some locations that didn’t have fan shows. Weird the second shows are taking place at the same time as the sold out/near sold out shows @12pm **(June 7)**.)

– vafrow ($12.1M THU comp. Good final day. Shows good hope for walk ups. The IF/Garfield combo are still distorting and should probably be thrown out. Factoring in that KFP4 overindexed in Canada, and was closer to $7M, that’s probably a good gauge on what it’s doing around here. With schools still in session, it’s probably doing a little worse than the US for previews **(June 13)**. Rate of growth declined surprisingly, but it actually didn’t drop much against comps. My theory is that Tuesday evenings ere when the full weekend showtimes go up. And in the case of family films, it’s usually opening up more lower cost regular showings. For Thursday, there’s only one regular showing, and it’s a matinee. Pretty much everyone seeing it on Thursday is having to pay a premium. But as the weekend shows go up, there’s a lot of regular priced screenings available, so some of the demand is being pushed there now that those options are available **(June 12)**. Acceleration continues **(June 10)**. I don’t think there’s any school jurisdictions that finish before mid June up here, where there’s a lot more areas in the States that seem to end a little earlier. Basically for anything in June, I expect to see variances between Canada and the USA **(June 10)**. Another good day **(June 9)**. Again, ignore the average ($21.6M). IF and Garfield are distorting, but are there because they’ll become relevant in the final few days when they started showing life. Growth across all comps are a great sign. Sunday morning updates usually don’t see a big increase, but, I think families maybe planning for the week a bit **(June 8)**. Another good growth day **(June 8)**. A good growth day heading into its final week **(June 6)**. Not much movement. New showtimes were added though **(June 5)**. Growth remains solid **(June 4)**. Really strong day. I’m not sure what drove it, but it’s pulled ahead of KFP4 in sales **(June 3)**. Decent day **(June 2)**. I still have a wide divide between comps. KFP4 just did tremendously well around here, making it a challenging comp to use. Or Garfield and IF being the opposite **(June 1)**.)

– YM! (My god – the growth and pace for this one so good. It’s already doing over 3x of IF’s T-8 hours and 3.73x Garfield’s T-4 hours with EA. Assuming the fat cat did 400K previews with $2.3M total previews, it puts IO2 at 10.8M previews. Thinking previews for this will be around 10.5M +/- 0.5M **(June 12)**. Pace is continuing to be solid with today being a bit soft. Thinking O/U 8M previews based on MTC1 data from Keyser having soft weekend jumps and some other data but if buildup is strong this week, think 10M/100M is definitely a possibility **(June 9)**. I think the Funko events took away the demand here and the rest is just walkups. | [*in response to Flip’s comment about the SUN fan event siphoning sales*] I noticed that too for SE Wisconsin – 250 tickets for the events on Saturday vs 57 tickets total **(June 5)**. SouthEast Wisconsin: At T-9 is showing the momentum I was referring to jumping 50% from the T-12 total of 38 to 57. That’s pretty good for a kids movie but only one theater has been flat. PLF is the preferred format for IO2. With our data so far, thinking around $7-8.5m previews for this one **(June 4)**. Already outdone Garfield minus EA. Ideally I’d like heavy buying to be prevalent next week with some form of buildup this week. Right now, looking at other data on here, put me down for 7-8M previews. At NS using pre-pandemic comparisons, it’s about 22% ahead of Onward’s T-9, 57% ahead of Sonic’s T-9 and 46% of Aladdin’s T-9 **(June 1)**.)

**Presale Tracking Posts:**

[May 11](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1cq0ych/domestic_bot_presale_tracking_may_11_total/)

[May 14](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1csaqfz/domestic_bot_presale_tracking_may_14_total/)

[May 16](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1ctj322/domestic_bot_presale_tracking_may_16_total/)

[May 18](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1cvi8t5/domestic_bot_presale_tracking_may_18/)

[May 21](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1cxwol9/domestic_bot_presale_tracking_may_21_total/)

[May 23](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1cz3h1j/domestic_bot_presale_tracking_may_23_bad_boys/?ref=share&ref_source=link)

[May 25](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1d0orj1/domestic_bot_presale_tracking_may_25_thursday/?ref=share&ref_source=link)

[May 28](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1d3628t/domestic_bot_presale_tracking_may_28_thursday/?ref=share&ref_source=link)

[May 30](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1d4jgng/domestic_bot_presale_tracking_may_30_thursday/?ref=share&ref_source=link)

[June 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1d6aq58/domestic_bot_presale_tracking_june_1_thursday/?ref=share&ref_source=link)

[June 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1d8gct8/domestic_bot_presale_tracking_june_4_thursday/?ref=share&ref_source=link)

[June 6](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1da36t8/domestic_bot_presale_tracking_june_6_thursday/?ref=share&ref_source=link)

[June 8](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1dba5i3/bot_presale_tracking_june_8_lord_of_the_rings/?ref=share&ref_source=link)

Note: I have removed most tracking data that has not been updated for 2 weeks. I think there is value in keeping data for a week or two but at a certain point they start to lose their value and should not be treated the same as more recent tracking data.

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