INTERNATIONAL PRESALES
Joker: Folie à Deux Overseas
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Charlie Jatinder (I tweeted $90M OW but $80M OW likely (October 1). Joker 2 initial reception seems toxic in South Korea. Opens in India, most of Europe and Asia tomorrow. Pre-sales are okayish. Expecting $90M OS weekend, which will be down from ~$150M the first one (October 1).)
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DEADLINE (The expectation for this first wave of overseas markets this weekend is $80M-$85M+ internationally (October 1).)
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ThatWaluigiDude (After the weak results, many chains decided to extend the promotional period. Depending of the chain some will discount tickets the next week too, others will do the next two weeks, some only on the weekdays (September 19).)
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ThatWaluigiDude (The Forge: The Forge started the pre-sales a few days ago. Though they are selling in too few screens to make an assumption, it could be looking for a small overperfomance on Brazil (September 21).)
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keysersoze123 (Ouch. This is one of the few markets one would expect growth. This is definite sign for the movie's OS potential (September 11).)
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ThatWaluigiDude (Joker: Folie à Deux: Presales improved. It is looking more healthy now. It still looks like an opening inferior to the first movie, but this last week should give a better picture (September 24). Based on the current pace of pre-sales, Joker 2 is being estimated (unoficially, not by Warner) an opening of R$20M ($3.59M USD). The first movie had the october record with an R$31M opening (September 11). Moving healthly. It have doubled the sales of the first day, though the signs are showing that it will probably not go as big as the first (September 10). The first 24 hours of pre-sales from Joker were around 10x from Alien Romulus, 4x Furiosa's but 1/7 of Deadpool & Wolverine. A pretty good start though to be honest I was expecting a bigger impact giving the first one's performance in Brazil (September 5).)
China: Presales and Maoyan Want to See from Firefox72
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Firefox72 (Transformers One 3rd party media projections: $21M-$42M)
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Firefox72 (Venom: The Last Dance 3rd party media projections: $71M-$95M)
- Quigley (Next week, 'Joker: Folie à Deux' enters the marketplace. The sequel to 'Joker' doesn't seem as promising though, mainly because it is a musical and I have heard that presales are not nearly as big (October 1).)
India
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Charlie Jatinder (Joker: Folie à Deux tix on sale in India. As of now, set to enjoy a solo opening day on a huge national holiday. Has the potential to post a gigantic first day for a Hollywood film in India (September 7).)
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KOIMOI (Joker 2 Box Office Day 1 Advance Booking (India): Earns 21% Of Part 1’s Opening Day Already Through Pre-Sales. As of now (4:50 pm IST), Joker 2 has sold tickets worth 1.48 crores gross (excluding blocked seats) for day 1 at the Indian box office. It includes a sale of over 43,000 tickets across the country, which is superb. The advance booking is backed mainly by Karnataka, Maharashtra, and Delhi. In National Cinema Chains (PVR-INOX and Cinepolis), the film has already sold over 31,000 tickets (September 30).)
- Carlangonz (Joker: Folie à Deux: $19.39M Pesos ($0.99M USD) WED preview comp. Superb increase this final weekend; way bigger than any of the comps and close to what Flash grew from T-7 to T-2. Average is $19.4M Pesos which seems appropriate considering higher ATP than Fast X and Flash. We'll see if it can mantain pace all through the end and may add some extra comps as well. Thursday sales seem down though; both Fredy and D&W comps point to $20M Pesos but will wait until T-1 to see how FX and Flash adjust because those comps are delayed by one day. Pending on how front-loaded may be, seems like $180M Pesos ($9.18M USD) opening weekend. Reception from spanish-speaking media is mixed so far, both from Spain and Latin America (September 30). Honestly is quite impressive how it managed to keep up pace with Fast X during the whole weekdays. So far is doing good enough to deliver somewhat decent numbers even if it's below first Joker opening. We'll see how walk-ins do (September 27). It added IMAX shows which will be sharing for two days with Talking Heads: Stop Making Sense but overall is not particularly outstanding tbh; falling below Flash in occupancy and pace for the whole weekend is quite rough but even if it still drops in small margins should make up the difference with a higher ATP. I'm still counting on it coming close to $20M Pesos ($1.03M USD) in previews but Warner is slowing down the marketing and with no press junkets or major coverage (Venice was a huge deal that kept the conversation for the whole month leading to the release of the first one) will be tough to sustain momentum (September 23). Couldn't take 24-Hour data but given sales started at 9AM, I don't think there was significant demand to move the neddle from what it already looked like. Is looking like o/u $20M Pesos ($1.03M USD) in previews and o/u $200M Pesos ($10.34M USD) for the whole weekend. Can't say is doing bad like elsewhere but it does is a step down from first Joker first weekend (FSS). We'll see how it paces on the upcoming days (September 20). After first 12 hours of sales for previews: 784 tickets sold and 5.31% occupancy compared to 634/6.3% for The Flash, 825/5.34% for Fast X, and 3475/68.88% for FNAF at the same point after tickets' launch (September 19). Tickets for Joker: Folie a Deux going on sale this Thursday. Releases October 3rd with night previews starting at 7PM on the 2nd. First set of shows are popping up and allocation is looking more like The Flash rather than Deadpool & Wolverine. Very curious to see how this one goes after how sales are going in US/CAN and Brazil (September 17). Tickets for Folie a Deux won't come out for another week. Was expecting a full 3-week window but Warner is going quietly (September 9).)
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Allanheimer (Speaking of Joker, seems to be selling pretty damn well here 5 days out. Definitely stronger than Beetlejuice at the same point and that's compared to my local and across the board at the Leicester Square theatres plus BFI. I'd say £8-10m+ opening right now (September 29).)
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GreenbackBoogie (Movio are saying 46% presales are IMAX/PLF. Despite UK premiere last week and Lady Gaga on Graham Norton buzz seems really soft (October 1).)
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Krissykin (Just checked my local and I’m going to guess around £5m opening for Joker instead (September 29).)
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leoh (‘Venom: The Last Dance’ tickets on sale October 2 in the UK (September 28).)
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NorthernBrit20 (As a former employee within the cinema industry, I’m expecting Joker 2 to do very well. In my many years of experience working in multiple cinema’s, films that have such pre-sales in premium format follow through to have a good amount of walk ins on top. The only thing that could end this film quickly at the box office would be bad reviews (September 29).)
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The UK really loves its musicals and legs tend to be stronger over here than in the US, so I think *Joker 2* might do alright here.